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01:32:46 PM Initiative: an Act Increasing the Alaska Minimum Wage
03:17:04 PM Adjourn
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Initiative Hearings:
An Act Increasing the Alaska Minimum Wage to
$8.75 Per Hour
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
                         JOINT MEETING                                                                                        
              SENATE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
               HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 29, 2014                                                                                         
                           1:32 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATE JUDICIARY                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 Senator John Coghill, Chair                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE JUDICIARY                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Wes Keller, Chair                                                                                               
 Representative Bob Lynn, Vice Chair                                                                                            
 Representative Lance Pruitt                                                                                                    
 Representative Max Gruenberg                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATE JUDICIARY                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 Senator Lesil McGuire, Vice Chair                                                                                              
 Senator Fred Dyson                                                                                                             
 Senator Donald Olson                                                                                                           
 Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE JUDICIARY                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Neal Foster                                                                                                     
 Representative Gabrielle LeDoux                                                                                                
 Representative Charisse Millett                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Sam Kito III                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
INITIATIVE: AN ACT INCREASING THE ALASKA MINIMUM WAGE                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LIBBY BAKALAR, Assistant Attorney General                                                                                       
Civil Division                                                                                                                  
Labor & State Affairs                                                                                                           
Department of Law                                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Reviewed the minimum wage initiative and                                                                  
provided a sectional analysis.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
GREY MITCHELL, Assistant Commissioner                                                                                           
Department of Labor and Workforce Development                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Discussed the regulatory and enforcement                                                                  
aspects of the minimum wage initiative.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DAN ROBINSON, Chief Research Analyst                                                                                            
Department of Labor and Workforce Development                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Discussed the economic aspects of the                                                                     
minimum wage initiative.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL SALTSMAN, Director of Research                                                                                          
Employment Practices Institute                                                                                                  
Washington, D.C.                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified on the minimum wage initiative.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ED FLANAGAN, Chair                                                                                                              
Alaskans for a Fair Wage                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of the minimum wage initiative.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REVERAND MICHAEL BURKE, Pastor                                                                                                  
St. Mary's Episcopal Church                                                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of the minimum wage                                                                  
initiative                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
VINCE BELTRAMI, President                                                                                                       
Alaska AFL-CIO                                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of the minimum wage                                                                  
initiative.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
NOAH SUNFLOWER, Organizer                                                                                                       
Unite HERE Local 878                                                                                                            
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Testified  in  support of  the minimum  wage                                                             
initiative.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
STACY ALLEN, Member                                                                                                             
Laborers Local 341                                                                                                              
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in  strong support of  the minimum                                                             
wage initiative.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA HUFF TUCKNESS, Director                                                                                                 
Legislative and Governmental Affairs                                                                                            
Teamsters 959                                                                                                                   
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Testified  in  support of  the minimum  wage                                                             
initiative.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SHARON CLAWSON, representing herself                                                                                            
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Testified  in  support of  the minimum  wage                                                             
initiative.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ZEBULON WOODMAN, Member                                                                                                         
Laborers Local 942                                                                                                              
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Testified  in  support of  the minimum  wage                                                             
initiative.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
KARM SINGH, Lineman Representative                                                                                              
Alaska IBEW 1547                                                                                                                
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Testified  in  support of  the minimum  wage                                                             
initiative.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN POMEROY, Business Manager                                                                                                 
Laborers Local 1942                                                                                                             
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Testified  in  support of  the minimum  wage                                                             
initiative.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
FAY GAVIN, representing herself                                                                                                 
POSITION  STATEMENT: Testified  in  support of  the minimum  wage                                                             
initiative.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
1:32:02 PM                                                                                                                    
 CHAIR  JOHN COGHILL called the  joint meeting of the  Senate and                                                             
 House  Judiciary  Standing  Committees  to order  at  1:32  p.m.                                                               
 Present  at  the  call to  order  were  Chair Keller  and  Chair                                                               
 Coghill.  Representatives  Lynn, Pruitt,  and Gruenberg  arrived                                                               
 soon thereafter.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ^INITIATIVE: AN ACT INCREASING THE ALASKA MINIMUM WAGE                                                                 
     INITIATIVE: AN ACT INCREASING THE ALASKA MINIMUM WAGE                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
1:32:46 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COGHILL  announced the business  before the  committees was                                                               
to  discuss  the benefits  and  costs  of increasing  the  Alaska                                                               
minimum wage.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:33:44 PM                                                                                                                    
LIBBY  BAKALAR, Assistant  Attorney General,  Department of  Law,                                                               
stated that  she was  appearing at  the request  of the  Chair to                                                               
provide   an    outline   of   the   minimum    wage   initiative                                                               
("13minimumINW"). "An  Act increasing the Alaska  minimum wage to                                                               
$8.75 an hour effective January  1, 2015, $9.75 an hour effective                                                               
January   1,  2016,   and   thereafter   adjusted  annually   for                                                               
inflation." She clarified that neither  the Department of Law nor                                                               
any  colleagues   that  were  testifying   on  behalf   of  their                                                               
respective departments  were taking a position  on the initiative                                                               
bill. They  were here to walk  through the mechanics and  offer a                                                               
neutral  assessment  of  the  costs and  impacts  of  the  ballot                                                               
initiative.  She also  clarified that  DOL's role  in the  ballot                                                               
measure process was to represent  the Lieutenant Governor and the                                                               
Division of  Elections as they  execute their  constitutional and                                                               
statutory duties.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAKALAR stated that the  Department of Law and the Lieutenant                                                               
Governor's  office reviewed  the  ballot  measure application  to                                                               
determine whether or not it  was compliant with the technical and                                                               
constitutional requirements  of the ballot measure.  DOL found it                                                               
to  be  a  legally  sound  use  of  the  initiative,  recommended                                                               
certification, and  helped author the ballot  summary. Sufficient                                                               
signatures  were subsequently  gathered to  place the  measure on                                                               
the August 19, 2014 statewide primary election ballot.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BAKALAR   described  the  four  sections   proposed  by  the                                                               
initiative bill as follows: [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
   · Section 1. This section is a statement of findings and a                                                                   
     declaration. The  section declares  that an increase  in the                                                               
     Alaska minimum wage would help  ensure a minimum standard of                                                               
     living  for  the health  and  well-being  of Alaskans;  that                                                               
     Alaskans working full-time at  the current minimum wage earn                                                               
     far below the  federal poverty level for a  family of three;                                                               
     that several states  in the Pacific Northwest  have a higher                                                               
     minimum wage;  and that a  fair minimum wage indexed  to the                                                               
     cost of living  will help low-income workers  keep pace with                                                               
     inflation.                                                                                                                 
   · Section 2. This section is a statement of purpose and                                                                      
     intent, providing  that the bill  intends to  raise Alaska's                                                               
     minimum wage  to $8.75  an hour  effective January  1, 2015,                                                               
     $9.75  an hour  effective  January 1,  2016, and  thereafter                                                               
     adjusted annually for inflation.                                                                                           
   · Section 3. This section would repeal and reenact AS                                                                        
     23.10.065(a). The  section would  require every  employer to                                                               
     pay each employee a minimum  wage of $8.75 an hour effective                                                               
     January 1,  2015, $9.75 an  hour effective January  1, 2016,                                                               
     and thereafter adjusted annually  for inflation. The section                                                               
     provides  a  method  for calculating  that  adjustment,  and                                                               
     provides that  the adjustment would apply  to work performed                                                               
     from  January  1  through adjustment  would  apply  to  work                                                               
     performed from  January 1  through December  31 of  the year                                                               
     for  which it  is effective.  The section  provides that  an                                                               
     employer may  not use tips  or gratuities to  offset payment                                                               
     of  the minimum  wage, and  that  Tip Credit  as defined  by                                                               
    relevant federal law does not apply to the minimum wage.                                                                    
   · Section 4. This section provides that if the minimum wage                                                                  
     determined  under section  3 of  the bill  is less  than one                                                               
     dollar  over the  federal minimum  wage, the  Alaska minimum                                                               
     wage shall  be set  at one dollar  over the  federal minimum                                                               
     wage, and  that the amount  shall be adjusted  in subsequent                                                               
    years by the method set forth in section 3 of the bill.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BAKALAR advised  that the  Alaska Constitution  provides the                                                               
legislature with the  opportunity to act on  initiatives prior to                                                               
their appearance on the ballot  by enacting substantially similar                                                               
legislation.  Taking  that  action would  void  this  initiative.                                                               
Whether  such a  measure would  be substantially  similar to  the                                                               
initiative petition is  a question of both fact and  law that DOL                                                               
likely  would be  called  upon to  opine.  The constitution  also                                                               
states  that a  law enacted  by initiative  becomes effective  90                                                               
days after certification  of the election at which  it is passed.                                                               
It is  not subject  to veto  and may not  be repealed  within two                                                               
years  of its  effective  date,  but it  may  be  amended by  the                                                               
legislature at any time.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:39:08 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN joined the committee.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL asked if the  findings and declaration in Section 1                                                               
are already in statute under uncodified law.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAKALAR said  she'd need to review the  uncodified law before                                                               
she  could answer,  but  Section  3 does  repeal  and reenact  AS                                                               
23.10.065(a)  that  currently states  that  the  minimum wage  is                                                               
$7.75 an  hour until  December 31, 2009  and thereafter  not less                                                               
than  $0.50 an  hour  more  than the  federal  minimum wage.  The                                                               
federal  minimum wage  was increased  to $7.25  an hour  when the                                                               
Fair Minimum  Wage Act of  2007 amended the Fair  Labor Standards                                                               
Act of 1938.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:41:14 PM                                                                                                                    
GREY MITCHELL,  Assistant Commissioner,  Department of  Labor and                                                               
Workforce  Development, advised  that  he and  Dan Robinson,  the                                                               
chief of research  and analysis for DOLWD,  would jointly discuss                                                               
the economic, regulatory, and enforcement  aspects of the minimum                                                               
wage proposal.  He started  with a brief  discussion of  the cost                                                               
impacts of  the initiative  that have  been calculated  to affect                                                               
three  agencies.   The  Lieutenant  Governor's  Office   will  be                                                               
affected  in the  amount  of  $9,000 for  travel  to hold  public                                                               
hearings  on the  initiative in  two communities  in each  of the                                                               
four   judicial  districts.   The  Division   of  Elections   has                                                               
calculated  an   estimated  cost   of  $71,257  to   certify  the                                                               
initiative  and review  the initiative  petition.  This does  not                                                               
include potential legal costs if  the validity of the petition is                                                               
challenged.  The Department  of Labor  and Workforce  Development                                                               
has  calculated costs,  if the  initiative passes,  of $2,083  to                                                               
print  publications that  provide information  about the  minimum                                                               
wage.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:43:38 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MITCHELL discussed  the enforcement  aspects of  the minimum                                                               
wage proposal.  He reviewed current  law under AS  23.10.065 that                                                               
sets Alaska's minimum wage $0.50  higher than the federal minimum                                                               
wage.  He reported  that  about  20 percent  of  the wage  claims                                                               
historically are  related to nonpayment  of minimum wage  and the                                                               
remainder  are  for things  like  overtime,  contract wages,  and                                                               
return transportation deductions. This  ratio has remained fairly                                                               
constant over time.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
A  petition  in  2002  resulted   in  legislation  in  2003  that                                                               
significantly increased Alaska's minimum  wage from $5.65 an hour                                                               
to $7.15 an hour. Although this  was a 27 percent increase in one                                                               
year, Wage  and Hour experienced  no discernible increase  in the                                                               
percentage of  wage claims related  to minimum wage.  The general                                                               
conclusion is that increasing the  minimum wage does not increase                                                               
the likelihood  that an  employer will  violate the  minimum wage                                                               
requirements.  Thus,  DOLWD  doesn't anticipate  an  increase  in                                                               
enforcement efforts as a result of the petition.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
He reviewed the  stepped increase to the minimum  wage called for                                                               
in  the  initiative.  The  first  year  the  minimum  wage  would                                                               
increase from  $7.75 to $8.75 or  13 percent. The second  year it                                                               
would increase to  $9.75 an hour, which represents  an 11 percent                                                               
increase on  an annual  basis. The increase  from $7.75  to $9.75                                                               
over two years represents a 26 percent increase.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN asked  if the  previous increase  in minimum                                                               
wage  resulted  in  employment  loss, more  part  time  jobs,  or                                                               
reduced hiring.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MITCHELL  replied  the  minimum  wage  in  Alaska  was  last                                                               
increased in  2010 from $7.25  an hour to  $7.75 an hour  and the                                                               
$0.50  an  hour  above  the federal  minimum  wage  elevator  was                                                               
created.  The  percentage  of   enforcement  actions  related  to                                                               
minimum  wage  remained  fairly  constant.  He  deferred  to  Mr.                                                               
Robinson to address the economic impacts.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:47:48 PM                                                                                                                    
DAN ROBINSON,  Chief, Research and Analysis,  Department of Labor                                                               
and Workforce Development said the  statistics for Alaska show no                                                               
discernable  impact on  employment.  He  acknowledged that  there                                                               
were impacts, but there were enough  things going on that it left                                                               
no  clear mark.  Some  economists  say a  wage  increase costs  a                                                               
certain number  of jobs and  others disagree  so it's a  very hot                                                               
topic with no clear answer.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN mentioned anecdotal evidence.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROBINSON  said different studies  show different  things, but                                                               
in this  case it's situation specific.  If the wage goes  from $3                                                               
to  $4 it  doesn't make  much difference  because the  market has                                                               
long since  left those wages  behind. But  if the wage  goes from                                                               
$10  to  $20 an  hour,  that  affects  people and  employers  and                                                               
different consequences could be expected.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL recognized that  Representative Lance Pruitt joined                                                               
the committee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROBINSON  continued to  say that  DOLWD estimates  that about                                                               
3,000  or one  percent  of Alaska  jobs pay  $7.75.  At $8.75  an                                                               
estimated 5,600  or 2  percent of Alaska  jobs would  be affected                                                               
and at  $9.75, an estimated  18,200 or  5 percent of  Alaska jobs                                                               
would be affected. In order  of numbers impacted, the occupations                                                               
that  would  be most  affected  are  seafood processing  workers,                                                               
waiters  and waitresses,  food preparation  and serving  workers,                                                               
and  retail  salespersons.  Young people  are  disproportionately                                                               
represented in  these occupations; 36  percent of the  workers in                                                               
these occupations are  25 years or younger whereas  17 percent of                                                               
all other occupations are 25 years or younger.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  commented on the  exclusion of the tip  credit and                                                               
the category  of lower wage  workers that would benefit  from the                                                               
minimum wage increase.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROBINSON acknowledged the observation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MITCHELL  pointed out  that  current  statute prohibits  tip                                                               
credit so the  initiative isn't introducing anything  new in that                                                               
regard.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL asked if that law had been tested.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROBINSON responded  that current law prohibits  tip credit so                                                               
minimum wage  workers are covered  by the existing  $7.75 minimum                                                               
wage threshold.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL  asked  if  the  current  statute  recognizes  the                                                               
consumer price index (CPI) model.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROBINSON answered no.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL asked  if this is taken from the  Anchorage base of                                                               
the Consumer Price Index (CPI).                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROBINSON answered yes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL asked what that cost differential generally is.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROBINSON replied  it varies, but an average over  the last 10                                                               
years would be about 2 percent.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:54:37 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COGHILL asked if the  findings and declaration in Section 1                                                               
are new.  .                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MITCHELL  replied that to  his knowledge those have  not been                                                               
outlined in previous legislative proposals,  but it may have been                                                               
in the initial legislation.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL observed that voting  yes will send a clear message                                                               
that  these are  some  of  the things  that  people are  thinking                                                               
about. He described  it as the front door to  the question on the                                                               
minimum wage and the CPI.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KITO  III calculated that  someone who works  a 40                                                               
hour week  for 50  weeks a  year at the  current minimum  wage of                                                               
$7.75 will  receive $15,500  per year; at  $8.75 that  is $17,500                                                               
per year; and at $9.75 that is $19,500 per year.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL  noted  that  the  poverty  level  for  Alaska  is                                                               
generally $22,000.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:57:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.   SALTSMAN,  Director   of   Research,  Employment   Policies                                                               
Institute  (EPI),  Washington,  D.C.,   advised  that  EPI  is  a                                                               
nonprofit that  focuses on policies  that impact the  entry level                                                               
job  market.  The  National Federation  of  Independent  Business                                                               
invited him to testify. He said  that Alaskans for a Fair Minimum                                                               
Wage argue that the minimum wage  should be used to lift families                                                               
out of  poverty and that  Alaska should seek to  match Washington                                                               
State's  higher  rate.  However,  the evidence  shows  that  that                                                               
policy  hasn't been  terribly effective  in reducing  poverty and                                                               
has actually been detrimental to vulnerable workers.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
From  2003-2007,  28  states  including  Alaska  increased  their                                                               
minimum  wage,  but when  economists  from  Cornell and  American                                                               
University studied U.S. Census Bureau  data from this time period                                                               
they  found  no  associated  reduction  in  poverty  rates.  They                                                               
identified a few problems. The  first was that roughly 60 percent                                                               
of  the people  living  in  poverty were  not  employed and  thus                                                               
couldn't benefit from the increase  in the minimum wage. A second                                                               
problem was  that fairly  few minimum wage  workers live  in poor                                                               
households.  In Alaska,  for instance,  U.S.  Census Bureau  data                                                               
shows  that  nearly  two-thirds  of the  workers  affected  by  a                                                               
minimum wage  increase to $10 an  hour are living with  family or                                                               
are second or third earners in  a household. Just 5.5 percent are                                                               
single parents.  When all the  sources of income in  a particular                                                               
household are included, the average  family income of an affected                                                               
employee in Alaska  is over $73,000 per  year. Acknowledging that                                                               
this doesn't suggest that everyone  who earns the minimum wage is                                                               
a teenager  living in a  middle class household, he  posited that                                                               
it does  demonstrate the  problem of  using a  blunt tool  like a                                                               
minimum wage increase to address the complex problem of poverty.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. SALTSMAN said the Congressional  Budget Office (CBO) recently                                                               
released a report  on the President's minimum  wage proposal that                                                               
spotlighted the  unintended employment  consequences of  a higher                                                               
minimum wage. Washington State currently  has the highest minimum                                                               
wage in  the country  and proponents argue  that Alaska  ought to                                                               
emulate Washington. In  2013 the unemployment rate  in Alaska was                                                               
about  6.5 percent  and in  Washington  it was  about 7  percent.                                                               
Those numbers  are roughly  similar, but  the situation  was very                                                               
different  for  young  adults  age 16-19.  In  Alaska  where  the                                                               
minimum  wage  is  $7.75  an hour,  teen  unemployment  was  17.5                                                               
percent. But in Washington state  where the minimum wage is $9.32                                                               
an hour, the teen unemployment rate was 30.6 percent.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. SALTSMAN  said that a careful  look at the data  shows that a                                                               
higher minimum  wage has  played a  role in  Washington's current                                                               
situation. Analyzing  data from 2005-2011, economists  from Miami                                                               
and Trinity University estimated that  over 4,300 fewer teens had                                                               
jobs  in Washington  state due  to  the higher  minimum wage.  An                                                               
article in the Seattle Weekly  provided a striking example of how                                                               
these jobs  are eliminated.  Restaurants in  the largest  city in                                                               
the  state generally  stopped hiring  busboys and  are scheduling                                                               
fewer  servers   per  shift.   These  consequences   are  broadly                                                               
consistent  with what  is  known from  the  economic research  on                                                               
minimum  wage  increases.  Since  the  early  1990s,  roughly  85                                                               
percent of  the credible  academic studies  on this  subject show                                                               
that a  higher minimum wage  reduces employment for  less skilled                                                               
and  less   experienced  employees  like  teenagers.   There  are                                                               
outliers, but they're in the distinct minority.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
He  said   that  the  nonpartisan  Congressional   Budget  Office                                                               
understood  this, which  is  why it  estimated  that raising  the                                                               
minimum wage to  $10.10 would result in the loss  of 500,000 jobs                                                               
nationwide.   Using  a   similar   methodology,  the   economists                                                               
referenced  earlier estimated  400-1,100 lost  jobs in  Alaska if                                                               
the minimum wage went to $10.10.  This loss of opportunity at the                                                               
bottom rungs of  employment is a concern because  teens that miss                                                               
out on early  career experiences are at  a distinct disadvantage.                                                               
Research  shows that  high school  seniors with  a part-time  job                                                               
earn  higher   wages  6-9  years  after   graduation  than  their                                                               
counterparts   who  didn't   have  a   job.  Lengthy   spells  of                                                               
unemployment have also been shown  to increase the risk of future                                                               
unemployment for  young people. The  conclusion is that  the last                                                               
thing  Alaska  should  be  trying  to do  is  emulate  the  youth                                                               
unemployment  rate   that  currently  exists  in   the  state  of                                                               
Washington.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SALTSMAN  discussed  better   alternatives  to  raising  the                                                               
minimum  wage.  He said  the  federal  Earned Income  Tax  Credit                                                               
program  provides  a  substantial  income  boost  to  low  income                                                               
families without the unintended  consequences of a higher minimum                                                               
wage.  For example,  in  Alaska  the minimum  wage  for a  single                                                               
parent with two children is already  above $10 an hour due to the                                                               
roughly $5,200  annual payment this  family receives  in addition                                                               
to the  earnings at work.  Many states  have chosen to  provide a                                                               
state supplement to  this payment and the results  have been very                                                               
impressive. Researchers  from the  University of Georgia  and San                                                               
Diego State University found a  one percent drop in state poverty                                                               
rates for each one percent  increase in the state's earned income                                                               
tax  credit.  He  suggested  that  if  Alaska  is  interested  in                                                               
reducing  poverty rates,  this policy  should  ultimately be  the                                                               
topic of  conversation. He said  this suggestion is based  on the                                                               
empirical  research that's  looked at  poverty rates,  employment                                                               
rates in states that have  raised their minimum wages compared to                                                               
those  that haven't.  This research  clearly shows  that while  a                                                               
higher  minimum wage  might not  reduce poverty,  it does  reduce                                                               
employment.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KITO III  noted that  earlier testimony  from the                                                               
Alaska Department  of Labor  and Workforce  Development indicated                                                               
that when Alaska's minimum wage  increased 27 percent it resulted                                                               
in  no  measurable  difference   in  employment.  The  initiative                                                               
proposes a 20 percent increase over  a longer period of time. The                                                               
DOLWD also  indicated that  in Alaska, 36  percent of  the people                                                               
that would  be affected are 25  years or younger so  the proposed                                                               
increase will impact  64 percent of people 25 years  or older. He                                                               
said he  thinks this  may be  the same  situation that's  seen in                                                               
other states.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SALTSMAN cautioned  against  looking  at overall  employment                                                               
levels when  trying to determine  the impact of a  higher minimum                                                               
wage. It could  have a devastating impact on the  small subset of                                                               
the workforce  that's earning  a minimum wage,  but it  would not                                                               
show  up   in  the   overall  employment   numbers.  Historically                                                               
economists have  looked at the  employment of subgroups  and used                                                               
regression analysis to compare employment  levels in a state that                                                               
did raise  the minimum  wage versus  one that did  not to  see if                                                               
other factors have  been controlled. The consensus  has been that                                                               
each 10  percent increase in  the minimum wage  has approximately                                                               
reduced  employment by  1-3 percent  for  those affected  groups.                                                               
Based on  the past,  people should  anticipate this  happening in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. SALTSMAN said  that the U.S. Bureau of  Labor Statistics last                                                               
week reported  that just over 50  percent of the people  who earn                                                               
the  minimum wage  are age  16-24. But  the question  that should                                                               
ultimately be  asked isn't about  the age of the  workers earning                                                               
minimum wage;  it's whether  this is an  effective way  to reduce                                                               
poverty  and target  the people  that need  help. The  data cited                                                               
earlier suggests that  it has not had the  impact that proponents                                                               
wanted it to have.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KITO  III  noted  the U.S.  Department  of  Labor                                                               
national statistics show  that 50 percent of the  people who earn                                                               
the minimum  wage are between the  ages of 16 and  24 whereas the                                                               
Alaska Department  of Labor and Workforce  Development statistics                                                               
indicate that for  Alaska that number is 36 percent.  He asked if                                                               
that impacts the analysis.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. SALTSMAN replied  in either case the people  who earn minimum                                                               
wage  are   disproportionately  young.  He  suggested   that  the                                                               
discussion  gets  bogged  down  discussing the  ages  of  who  is                                                               
affected as opposed  to whether this is an effective  way to help                                                               
the people it's intended to help.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:09:33 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG joined the committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL asked the initiative sponsor to come forward.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:12:42 PM                                                                                                                    
ED  FLANAGAN, Chair,  Alaskans for  a Fair  Wage, sponsor  of the                                                               
initiative, stated  that this is an  ad hoc group formed  for the                                                               
specific  purpose of  getting the  initiative on  the ballot  and                                                               
getting it passed. He noted that  a recent focus has been to keep                                                               
the initiative on the ballot.  The principals are Tom Cashen, Jim                                                               
Sampson,  and  himself,  all  of which  are  former  state  labor                                                               
commissioners. He said they've waited  for ten years for somebody                                                               
to correct  what was done  to the minimum  wage in 2003  when the                                                               
indexing  that passed  the  year before  was  repealed. They  got                                                               
tired of waiting  and decided to do it  themselves. Alaska unions                                                               
have largely  funded the group  to do the work  to get it  on the                                                               
ballot.  The  effort  was  successful   and  the  petition  drive                                                               
resulted  in  36,500  valid  signatures  from  registered  voters                                                               
including the required seven percent in 33 districts.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. FLANAGAN  reviewed the minimum  wage in Alaska.  Existing law                                                               
sets  it at  $0.50 over  the  federal minimum  wage. The  federal                                                               
minimum wage  is $7.25 and Alaska's  is $7.75. He noted  that the                                                               
$0.50 premium was  established in the first  state legislature in                                                               
1959 when  the federal  minimum wage was  $1.00. That  50 percent                                                               
differential has fallen  to a 7-8 percent.  Currently, a fulltime                                                               
worker  earning $7.75  an hour  earns $16,120  annually. This  is                                                               
$8,600 below the federal poverty  threshold for a family of three                                                               
in Alaska and  $13,700 below the federal poverty  threshold for a                                                               
family  of four.  Alaska  had  the highest  minimum  wage in  the                                                               
nation for about  four decades after statehood and  is now behind                                                               
17 states  and the District of  Columbia. Even low-cost-of-living                                                               
states like Arizona  and Florida have a higher  minimum wage than                                                               
Alaska. Eleven states provide for  indexing based on the consumer                                                               
price index. In  Anchorage, we're lucky to have  one price index;                                                               
the rest of  the country, except for Alaska and  Hawaii, is under                                                               
all the same CPI whether  it's Mississippi or Seattle. Alaska has                                                               
the Anchorage  CPI and it  averages about 2 percent.  The minimum                                                               
wage went to $7.15 in 2002 and  if the index had not been removed                                                               
by the  legislature less than a  year after passing it,  it would                                                               
be at $9.53 an  hour right now. That would be  the highest in the                                                               
nation.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
He discussed  earlier failed attempts  to raise the  minimum wage                                                               
and  the AFL-CIO  effort between  the 2001  and 2002  sessions to                                                               
gather  50,000  signatures  and qualify  an  initiative  for  the                                                               
ballot. The  legislature suddenly became interested  and passed a                                                               
bill raising  the minimum wage from  $5.65 to $7.15, which  was a                                                               
27 percent  increase. There  were a lot  of predictions  of gloom                                                               
and doom  and the National  Restaurant Association and  the local                                                               
chapters were adamant  that it would be a shock  to employment in                                                               
the state. What  actually happened is that between  2002 and 2003                                                               
employment  in low  wage industries,  particularly the  ones like                                                               
seafood  processing,  accommodations  and food  service  drinking                                                               
establishments saw an increase that  was higher than the increase                                                               
in the  overall non-farm wages  in Alaska. There might  have been                                                               
other factors,  but that was  fairly glaring evidence  that there                                                               
was  not the  kind  of  negative impact  that  the prior  speaker                                                               
mentioned. What  he said  is also  belied by  the very  CBO study                                                               
that he  cited. The CBO found  just a 0.3 percent  job impact for                                                               
the federal minimum wage going up from $7.25 to $10.10.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FLANAGAN said  that when  Speaker Kott  was asked  about the                                                               
speculation  that the  legislature passed  the bill  to keep  the                                                               
issue  off the  ballot, he  said that  wasn't his  motivation. He                                                               
said he thought it was better  for the legislature to address the                                                               
measure so  they could change  the inflation provision  next year                                                               
if  they decided  to do  so. If  the change  were made  through a                                                               
ballot initiative the  legislature would need to  wait two years.                                                               
However, the unfortunate fact is that  less than a year later the                                                               
legislature came back  and repealed a significant  portion of the                                                               
bill  by  removing  the  indexing  provision  that  was  strongly                                                               
supported in  polls and would  have passed if the  initiative had                                                               
gone to the vote.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FLANAGAN  said  that history  explains  why  the  initiative                                                               
supporters   are  very   concerned   with   comments  about   the                                                               
possibility of  a bill. If  a bill supplants this  initiative and                                                               
thwarts the  will of 36,000 Alaskans  who signed it, there  is no                                                               
reason to believe  that the same thing wouldn't  happen again. He                                                               
noted  that a  subset of  the hospitality  industry currently  is                                                               
looking for  people to do just  that. He urged the  committee and                                                               
legislature to let the initiative go to a vote of the people.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:23:36 PM                                                                                                                    
He  said that  the CBO  study  that the  prior speaker  mentioned                                                               
examined the  effects on employment  under $9 and  $10 scenarios,                                                               
and the $9  scenario projected a possible  0.1 percent employment                                                               
loss. By inference,  the initiative proposal would  result in 500                                                               
jobs  lost  in the  Alaska  economy.  Goldman Sachs  published  a                                                               
response to that CBO study on March 25th stating the following:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Economists  are  split on  the  question  of whether  a                                                                    
     minimum  wage  hike  would reduce  employment.  In  our                                                                    
     view, the  CBO's recent  estimate of  a 500,000  hit to                                                                    
     the  level  employment,  .3 percent  is  likely  a  bit                                                                    
     toward  the  upper  end of  reasonable  estimates  both                                                                    
     because  many studies  find  no  significant impact  to                                                                    
     minimum  wage  hikes  on  employment  and  because  the                                                                    
     offsetting boost to demand is  likely to be larger than                                                                    
     usual  at present.  Any impact  on the  monthly payroll                                                                    
     numbers  would  likely  be  small  relative  to  normal                                                                    
     volatility and  would likely be concentrated  in retail                                                                    
     trade and leisure hospitality sectors.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FLANIGAN discussed  the history  of the  tip credit  and the                                                               
effort by  the industry  in 1996  to get a  tip credit  passed in                                                               
Alaska. Had  that effort succeeded, tipped  employees would still                                                               
be  getting  just  $5.25  an  hour.  The  bill  proposed  by  the                                                               
initiative repeals and reenacts  [AS 23.10.065(a) to reaffirm the                                                               
longstanding Alaskan ban on tip credit.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
He said  that studies have shown  that over 77 percent  of Alaska                                                               
workers  earning  minimum  wage  are  over  the  age  of  20.  He                                                               
commented that  if they're living  at home it's  probably because                                                               
they  can't afford  to leave.  He also  pointed out  that critics                                                               
like Mr.  Saltsman may  not be  aware that  workers under  age 18                                                               
that work no more than 30 hour  a week are exempt from the Alaska                                                               
minimum wage law, only federal  law applies. That provision dates                                                               
back at  least to 1981. He  said that better estimates  show that                                                               
over 30,000  workers that are  paid at  or near the  minimum wage                                                               
would benefit from this measure.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:27:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  FLANIGAN  said  that recent  polls  and  conversations  with                                                               
Alaskans  who  signed  the initiative  petition  show  that  this                                                               
measure crosses party  lines. He said his  experience in District                                                               
1 was  that 2 out of  3 people signed the  minimum wage petition.                                                               
He  expressed confidence  that Alaska  voters will  do the  right                                                               
thing and  vote to replace  the inadequate statement in  wage law                                                               
with the  initiative proposal.  He also  expressed hope  that the                                                               
legislature will  do the  right thing by  allowing the  people to                                                               
vote on the measure.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Addressing an  earlier question from  Chair Coghill, he  said the                                                               
findings in  Section 1 are the  same as the 2002  initiative, but                                                               
they're not in statute.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:29:55 PM                                                                                                                    
REVERAND MICHAEL  BURKE, Pastor  of St. Mary's  Episcopal Church,                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska, stated  that the core of  his family's success                                                               
has  been a  strong work  ethic and  unshakable belief  that hard                                                               
work  and  following the  rules  will  yield  a better  life  for                                                               
yourself  and your  family. He  said the  Alaskan dream  rests on                                                               
that  belief but  he fears  that it's  slipping away  for working                                                               
families at the lower economic level.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He described the  situation of a family with  three children that                                                               
he works with.  The husband works 60 hours a  week at two minimum                                                               
wage jobs  and attends school  at night.  Using HUD data  on fair                                                               
market  value  for  housing  in Anchorage  and  the  standard  30                                                               
percent for housing,  he needs to work 113.8 hours  a week to pay                                                               
rent for the family. Even if  both adults work they can't make it                                                               
because they  can't each work  nearly 57  hours a week  and still                                                               
care for  their children. The  result is  that they cycle  in and                                                               
out  of shelters.  Citing data  from the  Alaska Housing  Finance                                                               
Corporation (AHFC)  that shows  that just as  many people  are on                                                               
the wait list  as have housing vouchers throughout  the state, he                                                               
said  the  answer isn't  to  simply  keep increasing  the  social                                                               
safety net.  The answer  is to  make hard work  pay. At  $9.75 an                                                               
hour  the family  of five  will still  face challenges,  but it's                                                               
within reach if they're willing to work hard.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REVERAND BURKE concluded his comments  urging legislators to give                                                               
the people  a straight  up vote  on the  initiative to  raise the                                                               
minimum  wage and  link it  to the  CPI. This  will reincentivize                                                               
hard work and put the Alaska dream back in reach.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:39:31 PM                                                                                                                    
VINCE  BELTRAMI, President,  Alaska  AFL-CIO, Anchorage,  Alaska,                                                               
testified  in support  of  the initiative  to  raise the  minimum                                                               
wage.  He  stated  that  he  would address  the  purpose  of  the                                                               
hearing, the opposing testimony,  and the notion of substantially                                                               
similar legislation. Starting with  the first point, he suggested                                                               
coming to some understanding on  what the committee intends to do                                                               
with the information that's gathered from the hearing.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL explained  that the intention is to  give people an                                                               
idea  about  the  impacts  of  the  law  and  whether  there  are                                                               
competing economic or legal issues.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. BELTRAMI  asked for confirmation  that the  committee doesn't                                                               
have the  authority to change  the language in the  initiative or                                                               
take it off the ballot.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  said that's  correct. The  hearing is  intended to                                                               
look at the proposed law, what it does, and the impacts.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BELTRAMI  took issue  with  the  opposing testimony  of  Mr.                                                               
Saltsman  from  the  Employment Policy  Institute.  His  boss  is                                                               
Richard Berman,  a man the news  show 60 Minutes once  dubbed Mr.                                                               
Evil because  he's a media hit  man for hire. He's  created a web                                                               
of  organizations whose  names are  cleverly  disguised to  sound                                                               
legitimate  when he  attacks organizations  like Mothers  Against                                                               
Drunk Drivers.  The Employment  Policy Institute  is a  very good                                                               
example because  the name  copies the  liberal think  tank called                                                               
the Economic  Policy Institute.  The Employment  Policy Institute                                                               
receives  millions  in  undisclosed  funds to  attack  people  on                                                               
behalf of corporations. It's the  farthest thing possible from an                                                               
advocate on what's best for American workers.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL said he'd like  each person's testimony to stand on                                                               
its own merit.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BELTRAMI  refuted  earlier  testimony  that  increasing  the                                                               
minimum  wage does  not help  to reduce  poverty. He  pointed out                                                               
that even some of the  Employment Policy Institute's own research                                                               
shows  that increasing  the minimum  wage  helps reduce  poverty.                                                               
Also, Goldman  Sachs said that inflation  would probably increase                                                               
just one tenth of one percent if the minimum wage was increased.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:45:40 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  BELTRAMI  addressed  the  notion  of  substantially  similar                                                               
legislation.  He   noted  that  Representative   Pruitt  recently                                                               
indicated  that the  House might  introduce a  minimum wage  bill                                                               
since over 70 percent of  poll respondents stated support for the                                                               
initiative.  Representative  Pruitt  further stated  that  nobody                                                               
wants this to  appear politically motivated because  this is what                                                               
constituents want. However, the  political dynamic and motivation                                                               
for keeping the  issue off the ballot is quite  transparent for a                                                               
lot  of  people based  on  what  happened  in 2002.  The  AFL-CIO                                                               
collected   and  submitted   over  50,000   signatures  and   the                                                               
legislature   supplanted   the    initiative   measure   with   a                                                               
substantially similar  bill and then  stripped it the  next year.                                                               
That undermined the  process and deprived the Alaska  voters of a                                                               
personal liberty.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. BELTRAMI reminded  the legislators that tens  of thousands of                                                               
Alaskans  in   more  than   three-quarters  of   the  legislative                                                               
districts in  the state signed  this initiative petition  and all                                                               
Alaskans should be  allowed to exercise the right to  vote on the                                                               
measure on  the ballot. If  substantially similar  legislation is                                                               
introduced, he committed AFL-CIO  support to any legislators that                                                               
resist its  introduction or vote  against it because  the measure                                                               
should go to the voters.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL advised that the purpose  of the meeting is to talk                                                               
about  the impacts  of  the  initiative to  the  economy, not  to                                                               
discuss political strategy.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:50:31 PM                                                                                                                    
NOAH  SUNFLOWER,  Organizer,  UNITE HERE  Local  878,  Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska, said  this is  a hotel and  restaurant workers  union. He                                                               
addressed two  points Mr. Saltsman  made. He advocated  an earned                                                               
income tax credit as opposed to  an increase in the minimum wage,                                                               
but what this  means is that instead of  employers paying workers                                                               
more, tax  dollars will be  used to  pay people more.  The second                                                               
point  was   that  raising  the   minimum  wage   increases  teen                                                               
unemployment. Mr.  Sunflower said he'd like  to be able to  pay a                                                               
teen to  mow his lawn. It  takes about a  half an hour and  if he                                                               
paid $7.75 that would be double the current minimum wage.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SUNFLOWER  relayed  that  Local  878  has  ongoing  contract                                                               
disputes with two  hotels in downtown Anchorage.  Their wages are                                                               
lagging the wages  for the rest of Anchorage and  they can't find                                                               
people to  clean rooms  for $12  an hour  so they've  resorted to                                                               
using J-1 Visa workers. That takes work away from Alaskans.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:55:13 PM                                                                                                                    
STACY  ALLEN,  member,  Laborers'   Local  341,  Palmer,  Alaska,                                                               
testified in  strong support  of the  initiative to  increase the                                                               
minimum wage. Union members from  Local 341, Local 942, and Local                                                               
71 will be out in force  to see that this initiative becomes law,                                                               
she said. It's a labor and human rights issue.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:56:02 PM                                                                                                                    
BARBARA  HUFF TUCKNESS,  Director,  Legislative and  Governmental                                                               
Affairs, Teamsters  959, Anchorage, Alaska, testified  in support                                                               
of the  minimum wage initiative. She  relayed that she and  a few                                                               
union  members volunteered  to gather  signatures statewide.  The                                                               
union doesn't represent  any minimum wage workers,  but they hope                                                               
that   the   initiative   will  help   workers   that   have   no                                                               
representation.  On behalf  of  those  unrepresented voters,  she                                                               
asked legislators to allow voters to vote on the measure.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:57:16 PM}                                                                                                                   
SHARON   CLAWSON,   representing  herself,   Anchorage,   Alaska,                                                               
testified in  support of the  Initiative. She explained  that her                                                               
support for  the initiative  is the result  of concern  about the                                                               
effects   of   poverty   on  children,   especially   in   school                                                               
achievement.  Research   shows  that  25.9  percent   of  working                                                               
families in  Alaska are considered  to be among the  working poor                                                               
and one-third  of children in  the U.S. with single  mothers live                                                               
in  poverty.  Poverty  in  Anchorage  schools  seriously  affects                                                               
achievement;  this  past  school  year 48  percent  of  Anchorage                                                               
School   District  (ASD)   students  qualified   as  economically                                                               
disadvantaged  and  25.8  percent  are  considered  transient  or                                                               
homeless.  While  raising  the   minimum  wage  in  Alaska  won't                                                               
alleviate all poverty, it will make a difference, she said.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:00:07 PM                                                                                                                    
ZEBULON   WOODMAN,  Laborers   Local   942,  Fairbanks,   Alaska,                                                               
testified in  support of the  initiative to increase  the minimum                                                               
wage. He  said he'd like Alaska  wages to be high  enough to draw                                                               
people from rural  areas where the unemployment is  high to areas                                                               
in the  state that  have tourism so  the industry  doesn't import                                                               
low-wage J-1 Visa  workers from overseas. Also,  when the minimum                                                               
wage is  so far below the  poverty level that many  families need                                                               
public assistance to survive, everybody should be ashamed.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. WOODMAN refuted Mr. Saltsman's  testimony that increasing the                                                               
minimum   wage   in   Washington   state   resulted   in   higher                                                               
unemployment. What  actually happened since  Washington residents                                                               
voted in  1998 to raise the  state's minimum wage and  link it to                                                               
the  cost of  living  is that  those wages  have  climbed to  the                                                               
highest in  the country and  job growth has increased  .8 percent                                                               
on  an  annual  basis.   Furthermore,  payrolls  at  Washington's                                                               
restaurants and  bars have  expanded 21  percent and  poverty has                                                               
trailed the U.S. level for the  last 7 years. He concluded saying                                                               
that there's  no reason  that Alaska  shouldn't have  the highest                                                               
minimum  wage  in  the  country  and  Alaskans  should  have  the                                                               
opportunity to vote on the measure.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:02:19 PM                                                                                                                    
KARM SINGH, Lineman Representative,  Alaska IBEW 1547, Fairbanks,                                                               
Alaska,  testified in  support of  the Initiative.  He said  he's                                                               
listened to  all the testimony  and hopes that the  committee has                                                               
come to  the same conclusion that  he has, which is  that raising                                                               
the minimum  wage is  positive for the  state. He  also expressed                                                               
appreciation for the Chair's statement  that the committee had no                                                               
plans to interfere  on the people's right to  vote. He encouraged                                                               
continuing on that course.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL  restated  that  this  is  a  hearing  to  collect                                                               
information  so  that Alaskans  can  hear  the substance  of  the                                                               
issue.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:03:40 PM                                                                                                                    
KEVIN POMEROY, Business Manager,  Laborers Local 1942, Fairbanks,                                                               
Alaska, testified  in support of  the initiative to  increase the                                                               
minimum  wage. He  said there's  been lots  of talk  lately about                                                               
making  Alaska  friendly  for  business,  investing  in  Alaska's                                                               
future,  and  making  Alaska  competitive.  He  asked  if  Alaska                                                               
shouldn't also be  a friendly place for its  workers. It's common                                                               
knowledge that people  with entry-level jobs who  have more money                                                               
in their pocket at the end of  the month will spend that at local                                                               
businesses.  He urged  legislators to  let Alaskans  vote on  the                                                               
minimum wage  initiative and warned  against giving the  voters a                                                               
sense of Deja vu.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:05:13 PM                                                                                                                    
FAY  GAVIN, representing  herself,  Anchorage, Alaska,  testified                                                               
that she  is a minimum wage  worker who moved to  Alaska 40 years                                                               
ago to  follow her dream.  She came as  a single parent  with two                                                               
daughters and  she couldn't  afford to feed  and house  them. She                                                               
found help  and a pay raise  by joining the hotel  and restaurant                                                               
union. She  urged legislators to  help all Alaskans to  climb out                                                               
of poverty by working for a  living wage and to let Alaskans vote                                                               
on the initiative.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:07:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COGHILL  asked Mr.  Flanagan  to  differentiate between  a                                                               
living wage and a minimum wage.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FLANAGAN said  that a  minimum wage  has a  floor whereas  a                                                               
living wage  is usually local or  municipal. He noted that  a lot                                                               
of small  business people  have said that  they couldn't  in good                                                               
conscience pay  their workers  less than  $10 and  they certainly                                                               
wouldn't pay  $7.75, but a  "low-road" employer next door  may do                                                               
that.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL asked  his  perspective on  teen  workers and  the                                                               
minimum wage.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. FLANAGAN reiterated that a  long-standing provision in Alaska                                                               
law allows  employers to  pay someone  who is  under age  18 less                                                               
than minimum wage.  What that means is that  an employer wouldn't                                                               
have to pay the additional  $0.50 above the federal minimum wage.                                                               
With regard to the testimony  about teen unemployment, he said he                                                               
didn't believe  that Alaska was  affected but if teens  are being                                                               
displaced in  some places  it's because adults  have had  to take                                                               
minimum wage jobs that teens used to get.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:13:21 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COGHILL  asked if the state  has had to fine  or take legal                                                               
action against employers that paid less than minimum wage.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. MITCHELL  confirmed that  DOLWD has  a certain  percentage of                                                               
wage claims every year that  fall into the minimum wage category.                                                               
AS  23.10.110 provides  a penalty  for that  and it's  double the                                                               
amount of the unpaid wages.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  asked if  there's just  one multiplier  in statute                                                               
and that it's for school bus drivers.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MITCHELL said  that multiplier  is for  two times  the state                                                               
minimum wage but it wouldn't  take effect until the contracts are                                                               
renegotiated.  The  one  other  multiplier  relates  to  overtime                                                               
exemptions  for   administrative,  executive,   and  professional                                                               
employees who have to be paid  two times the minimum wage for the                                                               
first 40 hours of work under  a salary agreement. That would have                                                               
an impact if the minimum wage is increased.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KITO  III commented  that his experience  with the                                                               
tip credit issue  is that service employees  generally work fewer                                                               
than 40  hours, so allowing them  to receive tips in  addition to                                                               
the minimum wage allows them to  make enough money to pay rent or                                                               
groceries that  probably would be  out of  reach if the  tips was                                                               
credited against their wage.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL thanked the participants.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:17:04 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair  Coghill   adjourned  the  joint  meeting   of  the  Senate                                                               
Judiciary  Standing Committee  and the  House Judiciary  Standing                                                               
Committee at 3:17 p.m.                                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Written Testimony - Min. Wage - Zebulon Woodman.pdf SJUD 3/29/2014 1:30:00 PM
Minimum Wage Initiative
Written Testimony - Min. Wage - Kevin Turkington.pdf SJUD 3/29/2014 1:30:00 PM
Minimum Wage Initiative
Written Testimony - Min. Wage - Kevin Pomeroy.pdf SJUD 3/29/2014 1:30:00 PM
Minimum Wage Initiative
Written Testimony - Min. Wage - Juneau Chamber.pdf SJUD 3/29/2014 1:30:00 PM
Minimum Wage Initiative
Written Testimony - Dee Longenbaugh.pdf SJUD 3/29/2014 1:30:00 PM
Initiative Hearings